| Manufacturer |
Emporia Renewable Energy Corp. |
|---|---|
| Part Number |
860001485691 |
| Item Weight |
1 pounds |
| Package Dimensions |
8.82 x 6.69 x 4.65 inches |
| Item model number |
EMCT-EXP-16-CFU |
| Color |
white |
| Style |
Monitor with 16 50A Sensors |
| Power Source |
Hardwired |
| Batteries Included? |
No |
| Batteries Required? |
No |
| ASIN |
B08CJGPHL9 |
| Customer Reviews |
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| Best Sellers Rank |
#2,249 in Tools & Home Improvement (See Top 100 in Tools & Home Improvement) #3 in Electrical Meter Sockets |
| Date First Available |
July 7, 2020 |
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Frederick –
I recently purchased this electricity monitor, and I’m genuinely impressed with its performance. Installation was a breeze, which was a pleasant surprise. The user manual provided clear instructions, and I had it up and running in 1 hour.The real-time electricity usage display is a standout feature. It’s fascinating to see how different appliances and activities impact my electricity consumption. This monitor has been instrumental in identifying unnecessary energy wastage in my home. By pinpointing these areas, I’ve been able to make more energy-efficient choices, which I anticipate will reflect positively on my electricity bills.One of the most helpful aspects is the ability to track usage over time. The monitor provides a clear, comprehensive view of my electricity consumption patterns. This data is invaluable for making informed decisions about energy use and has helped me understand my household’s energy habits better.However, there’s one feature that could take this monitor from great to perfect: an API for web integration. If I could access my electricity usage data through a website, it would enhance the usability and accessibility of the information. This addition would allow for more detailed analysis and the possibility of integrating the data with other smart home systems.In conclusion, I’m very satisfied with this electricity monitor. It’s easy to install, simple to use, and provides crucial insights into electricity usage. I highly recommend it to anyone looking to gain a better understanding of their energy consumption and looking to make more environmentally friendly and cost-effective choices. A web API in future models would make it an unbeatable product in its category.
Sean I. –
I honestly didn’t know what to expect, but whatever it was this thing has exceeded it. My wife pretty much blew her stack when she saw the last power bill and blamed it on my 3D printing and other projects in the garage. Not only was I able to prove my innocence, but I also found that our kitchen refrigerator and furnace fan are the major culprits in our energy consumption.I love this thing. I can unplug appliances and turn off switches and see the changes in real time on my phone. You can see your energy usage history by the second, minute, hour, day, week, and month. It’s pretty sweet!I installed it myself which was a little dangerous with my particular breaker box, to be honest. They recommend having an electrician do it. But if you’re comfortable with working around electricity, if you know what you’re doing, and if you can trust your hands not to venture toward the main lugs (death lugs), then it’s pretty straightforward. The app guides you through the process very well, and it’s all communicated in plain, well-written English. For most homes with regular power, you just have to clip the 2 large CT transformers around the the 2 main power legs (by far the most dangerous part), and then connect 2 small wires to 2 different breakers and 2 other small wires to the neutral bus to provide power to the unit itself. Then it’s just a matter of clamping all the smaller CT transformers around the wires that you want to monitor.The cons I found with the installation are:1) The CT transformers are blocky and rectangular, and the corners get caught on wires ALL the time when trying to maneuver them into place. I don’t know if they can be built with rounded tops, but that would make things a lot easier.2) The hinges on the CT transformers have a lot of play in them, resulting in the latch not lining up sometimes when you try to lock it shut around a wire. This is a major PITA when you’re working in cramped quarters around electricity, and moving your fingers and trying to fiddle with finicky contraptions is a liability waiting to happen. They need to design them so they can easily be fastened with one hand. Having to use 2 hands inside an electrical panel creates the potential for a circuit right through your heart. Again, not sure how feasible that is, but it seems like it would be easy to make them that way.3) The cables for the individual CT transformers are way too long for most home breaker boxes. I ordered the bundle with only 8 of them, thank god. Even with the 8 CT’s in my panel, the bundle of excess cable was massive, and there’s no possible way I could have fit 16. Maybe newer boxes wouldn’t have a problem though.With these somewhat minor gripes aside, this thing was relatively easy to install and has given me great peace of mind. I would highly recommend it, it’s a good quality item and has a surprisingly well-designed app to go with it.
Lourdes L. –
Hello!This is an excellent product and quite affordable (Vue Gen2, with 8 sensors in addition to the main two that come by default).The manual at the website is quite detailed, and covers several faqs. The installation was fairly easy after reading the manual several times, and being very careful during installation.There are two wires for sensing the two main busbar voltages for proper watt calculations. The application will let you know If the two wires are connected to the same busbar, and will give you the chance to correct and connect them to separate busbars; quite convenient, and this gives you the confidence that the equipment is indeed reading the voltage for watt calculations, and not using any estimated values.Connecting to the cloud might take a while, especially if there is something wrong with the router. In my case, the system did not connect to the cloud initially, and we got concerned about that; but the system connected to the cloud immediately when using the phone hotspot. So, the problem was really the router. After trying reconfiguring the router for a very long time, we finally factory reset the router and worked immediately.The cloud has been working flawlessly since the installation on late September (it’s now early November, 2021). Please bear in mind two important things: the one-second data does not storage for a long time, and the exported data from the cloud to csv format shall be downloaded shortly or it will not be available after a while. This second condition is not critical for long available data, but it is for short term data (seconds and minutes).After having everything up and running (we changed the sensors and circuit configurations a few times to get the most out of the system) the information provided is quite useful, as you will know the consumption of almost all your equipments (or group of equipments, depending on the configuration) with a very high degree of accuracy.Storaged information is only available in watts, but current (Amps) is available at the moment, and for quite a long time, depending on the time step.Graphics are quite useful, as they provide a lot of information at different time steps and for each and every circuit, and also in Amps or watts.This system exceeded our expectations by far, after getting it properly installed and configured.For knowing your consumption with high degree of details and accuracy, this is the right equipment, both on features and on price.Don’t wait any more, don’t think any more, just get it; you won’t regret.Best regards,
Mosfet50 –
I’m using this in concord with my Emporia EVSE to limit charging to times when there’s excess PV.Hooking up the unit went well thanks to the excellent support from Emporia. Mine was not an easy installation. I have two PV systems, a critical load sub panel and an EV.The Emporia breaker sensors can not monitor bidirectional inverters that feed the grid with excess after critical loads are met but there’s a work around (Emporia is working on firmware to enable bidirection sensing of their CT breaker sensors). What I do is monitor all my critical breakers but don’t monitor the inverter in/out 240 source. This way it shows up as “balance” which are all the unmonitored breakers usage, this does show up on their software and is easy to read. There is no effect to the excess energy sent to the grid, that’s monitored by the main breaker monitor which is bidirectional. My Emporia EVSE works fine as all it needs to know is excess energy.I have now monitor all my critical loads (I got the 16 breaker Emporia) and I can clearly see how all my energy is being utilized.One note the ends of the CT’s are fragile and two were intermittent after pushing through a 6″ length of snug conduit so be careful installing them. (Emporia sent me out three new CT’s at no cost).Highly recommended!
J Wells –
I bought a plug-in hybrid car and added a 240 volt single phase home charger. Me, being the inquisitive type that I am, wanted to know exactly what it was costing me to charge my car at home. I tried a couple of devices before coming up with this shining example of technology. The first device would quit reading in the cold, and the second just was lazy and didn’t want to work (kind of like some kids I know). Then I stumbled upon this Emporia device. It reads 16 circuits and allows me to monitor exactly how much each circuit uses in power. It tells usage by the second, minute, day, week, month, or year; your choice. You can see the amounts in graphs, or numbers as well as the time of day that the power is being used. This last item, is especially important if you have a staged pricing system for your electric that gives you better prices late at night, etc. Also it is particularly valuable for those with solar systems. You get real time info!It took me about 1.5 hours to install it but I would figure on the average consumer taking about 3 hours. I have worked as an electrician in the past. There are risks though to doing the install yourself. If you don’t know what you are doing you could get shocked (also called “Break dancing lessons). Don’t be discouraged. There is a light at the end of the tunnel and it is not an AMTRAC headed for you. Wearing rubber gloves greatly limits the risks. There are accurate and helpful tips in the VERY GOOD INSTRUCTIONS to help you stay safe. Of course you have to use those tips to make a difference. Also there is the option of baking some great cookies and luring your electrician friend to come and try out these yummy delights (don’t forget to tell them they need to bring their tool belt along, just in case). Oh, and also save the beers until the install is DONE! 🙂 Now I have cumulative tracking, real time info, and some good resources to fill those long sleepless nights researching, calculating, and celebrating my successes.Truly, I don’t know how they can produce this absolutely awesome product for the price they do!I have since, added another 16 line unit to completely track my shop, hot tub, garage and RV pad usage. Now I can stay up even longer at night pouring through even more of those delicious numbers figuring how I can save those dollars for my trip to Australia and New Zealand.Hope you have as much fun as I have… Best wishes!
Boot Fan –
I love the Emporia Vue 2 energy monitor. The monitor is the only monitor that provides detailed info on each individual circuit. Most monitors provide only the mains usage. The only near competitor to the Vue 2 is the Sense. However, I read too many negative reviews regarding the Sense’s ability to determine what devices were being used in the house.The Vue 2 gives accurate information on each circuit. The Vue 2 matches my electrical bill regarding monthly usage per day and month. The total cost is off due to variation of end of month billing dates and add on utility company charges.The charts are functional and fine for my purposes. There is no API for to the feed data to an external program. You can download the raw data in CSV format if you want your own custom reporting. You can use the phone app or the website. You must login into the website to view your household information.I have not experienced any of the device or app issues that some people have reported.Tech support is awesome! They respond, know their stuff, and stay engaged until the issue is resolved.I did the installation myself. There are many You Tube videos that provide guidance. The instructions are simple, easy to follow, and accurate. The installation itself is easy and went relatively quickly. The breaker box will be a little crowded and messy unless you make an effort to wire-mind the cables.The Vue 2 can monitor only 16 circuits/breaker slots. I have 20 breaker slots occupied and 2 mains, so my Vue 2 is full. If you have more than 16 breakers and some are dual pole breakers, you can save a Vue 2 slot by monitoring 1 pole of the dual pole breaker and use a circuit multiplier of 2. If you still have additional breakers to monitor, you will need a second Vue 2 and “nest” the 2nd device under the 1st device. Contact Emporia support for additional questions.It is critical that you understand that when the main breaker is pulled the individual circuits to the house are dead BUT the mains that come from the utility pole into the breaker box are still live and dangerous. If you are not comfortable working around high voltage hire an electrician. Note: Make sure he records the breaker number and breaker amps to Vue 2 circuit number (explained below). Also make sure he dresses the cables neatly. After all he is a professional!As you make the connections you need to record the breaker number and what Vue 2 circuit number the breaker is connected to. This is important since you will need the information to set up the circuits in the monitor software.Once I had the device hooked up and working, I then determined what was connected to each breaker and corresponding Vue 2 circuit by turning on each household device one at a time (A/C, clothes washer, etc.) or by going to each wall outlet and plugging in a portable device that required noticeable watts. By observing what Vue 2 circuit showed an increase in usage I was able to develop a device mapping to Vue 2 circuit number to breaker number.In the VUE 2 software I labeled each Vue 2 circuit with the associated device name, the breaker number, and the breaker amps. This allowed me to have a breaker number to Vue 2 circuit number to device mapping with the circuit amps.The only downside to the Vue 2 is the AMPs reporting. As far as i can tell the individual mains and circuits are correctly reported in AMPs. However, the total of the mains is incorrectly calculated by totaling the two mains. This can be done for Watts/KW but not for AMPs since totaling ignores whether the result is from a 120 or 240 circuit if only 1 leg is being monitored. Either use the main with the biggest AMP usage or total the individual Vue 2 circuits to get a decent estimate. Emporia support says they want to fix this issue but there is no timeline.Yes I would buy this product again and recommend it to a friend.
Julia Gaines –
My solar client who has been really great to work with reached out to me about consumption monitoring to go with their system. I looked over the work orders from the job and saw that Enphase CT’s which are somewhat bulky didn’t fit in their panel. I had seen this solution before and I decided to give it a try.You will need a drill, your drill bits, wire strippers, and electrical tape. Wear work gloves with rubber coated palms, eye protection and consider having someone else with you while you work, even if they don’t do much.If you feel uncomfortable about working on a live electrical system I would really recommend hiring someone to do this work who is licensed and insured.If you are not going that route and you feel that you can work responsibly it is a pretty easy job. The app tells you everything to do and it’s easy to follow along.I did not apply common sense at first, which would tell us to select circuits from the top of the panel going down on each side and try to keep the sides of the device correspondent to the order of breakers in the panel. I had to pull everything off, tape it up, and recommission it because I couldn’t close the panel cover.As a gift for my homeowners I like that it has purpose, longevity, and isn’t consumable. It’s interesting to talk about which can lead them to someone who needs a referral and wants to get their bill lower.Compared to other solutions like Sense and onboard CT’s from SolarEdge and Enphase this is way better. Since you pick the circuits you get high quality data unlike the Sense. CT’s are cool but it doesn’t tell you why your consumption is up, just that your consumption is up. This would be a great tool to get ahead of true up bills, stay on top of time-of-use, and cut consumption for anyone looking to save on bills.
Sono-sanSono-san –
This is a great and lower cost tool at measuring energy usage around the home. By easy to understand graphs of circuits, one can see just how efficient or inefficient a furnace is perhaps, or an electric water heater. You can’t tell when a water heater is on or for how long, but with this very versatile unit, you can see exactly how long the water heater took to recover after a shower, clothes washing or just to see how often it comes on to maintain temperature. Same goes for the Furnace in winter and AC in summer. How long they run and how much they draw is easily at your finger tips.I bought the 16 circuit Vue Gen2 model and with my electrical knowledge, had this system installed in about an hour. The only complications that you’ll run into is how well the wiring was ran inside the panel box. There were a few wires that did not go easy on getting the clamps around and remember to install the clamp in the correct direction to the breaker. I had to skin the jacket of some circuits closer to their entry point into the panel to clamp on due to lack of space. Luckily this Vue Gen2 unit is all plastic and fits securely and safely in the panel, and fortunately for me I had a spot in my small panel box for the main Vue unit to live.After the setup process of the app, I was monitoring my house in realtime. I highly recommend this product for anyone who has remote sites or rental homes for an added bit of assurance on knowing what is happening at any given time. This product definitely allows one to see unusual power usage, and even notifications of power loss is a big win for me.***By all means, call an electrician to install this system if you feel the least bit uncomfortable of working in an electrical panel box***
Kim –
I recently installed a variable speed heat pump system in my home and was looking for an easy to use method to monitor the power usage of it as well as track the energy usage of all the other systems and circuits at home.I installed the Smart Home monitor in mid December and have been extremely pleased with the results. I originally ordered the 8 circuit system but subsequently ordered two more CT’s plus two of the smart plugs to monitor individual devices. The app gives me the information that I was looking for and is very accurate when comparing it against my Fluke meter. Also, it tracks exactly with our power company’s usage reports. So far the app has been very stable and responds quickly to changes in power consumption. I have had to contact customer support with a couple of questions and actually talked to a live, knowledgeable person without a lot of fuss and waiting. In my opinion, and for the money, this system can’t be beat.
BobinVA –
I just wanted to do a whole house power monitor. I wasn’t sure what came with the Vue 2 Monitor only kit, but it contains everything you need to wirelessly monitor your total power consumption i.e. (2) 200A current probes, a WiFi antenna, a Vue 2 and trivial accessories. Besides punching a hole in your breaker box to get the WiFi antenna outside of the Faraday shield, you need to connect the Vue 2 to 240V. There are great instructions, both on line and in the App, for most anyone to do this. If you are comfortable working in a high voltage environment, have downloaded the Emporia Energy App, have set up an account and read the instructions, this install can be done in 30 min. The graphic presentation is just as advertised. You can scroll back in time, well past a single screen worth. I haven’t had the unit long enough to determine how deep the cloud storage is, but it appears to meet my expectations.